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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.10.04 20:01:24 -
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The tripling in size of the ore hold on this beast, along with 25% bonus to ore hold size thanks to Industrial Command Ships 5 GÇö boosting total capacity to about 187,500m3 GÇö more than makes up for lack of ore compression IMHO. Now I'll be able to vacuum my usual mining haul into the Orca in one go without having a miner switch to hauling. I'd love this update even if it wasn't for the improvements that make mining drones actually useful.
Though one thing still bothers me: "90% reduction to effective distance travelled for jump fatigue" indicates to me that mistakes have been made in designing certain game mechanics.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.10.04 21:36:41 -
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Goati wrote:Who else thinks the Orca is way too powerful now? The idea that it can mine at the rate of an exhumer, with a 187.5k m3 ore hold, with huge EHP, it's just ridiulous. Orca is meant to be a support ship, not an exhumer equivalent mining vessel on steroids.
My Skiffs can mine at ~1280m3/minute, not including mining drone yield or Orca boosts. The theoretical yield of 1400m3/min for the Orca includes a 150% bonus to mining drone yield, meaning an expected base yield of drone + skills being around 560m3/min (not including travel time). This means that my Skiffs will be pulling in around 1840m3/min not including drone travel time.
Assume for a moment that drone travel time reduces mining drone yield by about half (velocity is about 400m/s plus skills and modules, range to asteroid is around 15-25km, so travel time is around 30s each way, cycle time is around 60s, so round trip time is 60s travel, 60s mining, for a 50% duty cycle): this means drone yield for the Orca drops to about 700m3/min, while total yield for the Skiff drops to about 1560m3/min.
Do you still think the Orca is an overpowered Mackinaw replacement that needs to be nerfed?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.10.04 22:34:33 -
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Ripard Teg wrote:Please increase the Scan Resolution on the Orca.
Put it this way: can a high-sec Orca even lock one of the Catalysts ganking it before (a) the Orca dies, or (b) all of the Catalysts die? Can the same Orca lock and kill an untanked gank Talos before CONCORD does the job for him?
DPS is useless if you can't apply it.
Guard your fleet with a fast-locking destroyer or interceptor, with sentry drones deployed by the mining fleet assisted to the guard. At a pinch you can use a scan-resolution-boosted hauler for the same job.
A lateral option is to have two Orcas, each providing one command burst and permanent remote reps to the rest of the fleet.
Fit for agility rather than tank, and warp out before hostiles land on grid.
Fit warp core stabilisers and warp out before getting blown up.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.10.05 19:55:16 -
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Jin Kugu wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote: Interesting response considering the complaint is about not being able to interact with an aggressing player before the NPC police arrive.
We could just delay concord and facpo by 20 seconds if that's what you want. That reminds me, when is CCP announcing the corresponding buff to ganking? CCP Fozzie wrote:we like to pair buff and nerfs to suicide ganking to keep things in balance
Allowing the target to shoot back/first is a buff to ganking.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.10.07 11:34:57 -
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Marox Calendale wrote:GǪ alternative to jump ore thru any kind of wormhole to a T2 Hauler. These still have the better Mass/Orehold ratio, but now it is not as worse as it was before. But could we get a PI Extention too? Please! It is so annoying to jump PI thru wormholes. Even with T2 Haulers it is not very better to bring in 1 Million m-¦ of Pi. What about an Ore/Planetary Interaction Hold for the Orca?
Sounds like you need to suggest a T2 epithal, and the place for that is F&I discussion :D
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.11.29 02:38:25 -
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Dieter Ottenbach wrote:Looks like I should invest in an egg-timer in order to do efficient Orca Mining boosting ........
You do not need any third party timer since the buff timers are right there in front of you, assuming you are not AFK.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2016.11.29 02:48:19 -
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baltec1 wrote:Anne Sol wrote: so 250mil for killing 700mil worth ship? I call it fair game then.
Now calculate the profit to be made on such a gank.
Now ask the gankers whether they measure profit in ISK or miner tears.
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